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« on: September 26, 2011, 02:32:35 PM » |
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Here is the place to ask your questions about fasting for healing arthritis.
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patty
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2011, 01:17:20 PM » |
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Hi Barbara, when I was first diagnosed in May I went on a 3 day water fast, then when I started eating I cut out junk foods and sugars. I have lost about 15 lbs. I'm petite to start with, and though I have a great appetite, I have not gained a lot of weight.
This freaks most people out. I am thinking of doing a juice fast since my latest blood test shows higher inflammation than the
original test. What are your thoughts on thin people fasting?
Thanks, Patty
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Barbara Allan
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2011, 08:38:38 PM » |
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Hi Patty,
Since you have already taken the ALCAT test, I suggest that you focus for now on eliminating any hidden allergens that are still triggering your inflammation. If you fast now, you will likely very quickly and accidently trigger your inflammation again when you start eating again at the end of the fast. Since you are already so thin, it would be better not to fast at this time, especially since you have another alternative.
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Muirnin
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2012, 12:13:39 PM » |
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I was just wondering if it is typical to feel a slight increase in pain after eating a food? I am on a water fast (not completely down to a zero pain level yet) and am testing one food every 24 hrs. When I tried squash and sweet potato, both higher in carbohydrate, I had a short lived and very slight increase in pain for a couple of hours. This also happened after eating chicken, which contains omega 6 fats. Is this typical when you are early on in your healing path or does it indicate a possible reaction to the food? The only foods which have not caused this reaction so far are spinach, cabbage, and asparagus. The salmon reaction was obviously an allergic reaction as the pain was far more intense, but I'm not so sure about the squash, sweet potato, and chicken. Thanks so much for your input.
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effy1
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2012, 05:37:58 PM » |
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I am also curious, the only time I am pain free is when I fast. I like your method and am eager to see this develop. Please post more as you find your way.
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Barbara Allan
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2012, 10:46:37 AM » |
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Dear Muirnin,
Delayed food sensitivities (which trigger chronic inflammation) come in many intensities. What you experienced as a slight increase in pain that last only a few hours is typical of a very mild sensitivity. If possible avoid all traces of those foods for about 6 weeks, and they usually heal, meaning you those foods no longer trigger inflammation. If you don't have enough safe foods to avoid all your mild intolerances, the second best stragegy is to eat these foods on a strict rotation only, meaning have any given mild sensitivity food one day and then not traces of this food for three days. What you experienced with the chicken was also a mild sensitivity to the chicken itself, not the omega-6 component. Although omega-6 oils are inflammatory they first need to be incorporated into cell membranes in your body to have this effect. There is only a 1% turn over in cell membranes in any given day. The effects of a consistent change in fats and oils in the diet is felt on the time frames of weeks and months, not on the time frame of a single meal. It takes a while for the effects to accummulate enough to be noticable.
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Muirnin
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2012, 06:54:26 PM » |
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Thank you Barbara, I am very thankful for both your book and this site. I am learning a lot and today was a breakthrough day for me.  I was almost symptom free today. I ate grass fed, free range, anti-biotic free elk meat today and wow!! What a difference! I am almost there!! I went to a farm and purchased meats I have never eaten before so that I would have no likelihood of allergies to them. Tomorrow is bison meat and the next is goat and the following rabbit. All meats I have never eaten before. Mind you, I am not eating very much at the moment and need to increase amounts as I learn of more foods that I can eat as I am in ketoacidosis, which hurts when I return to it, and am losing weight. I have found a local water source in the form of natural, ozonated spring water but would like to find one in glass bottles, not plastic. I will make some more phone calls tomorrow. I also need to find a calcium source I can eat: goat, almond, rice, cow, soy, and coconut are all sesitivities or allergies for me. However, today's improvement felt so amazing. I can't wait to see what tomorrow brings. Thank you again for your willingness to put so much energy into helping others acheive what you have. I look forward to one day healing all of these allergies and living pain free and eating all the wonderful foods available. Susan |
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Barbara Allan
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2012, 07:58:52 PM » |
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Dear Susan,
I am so happy you had a breakthrough day! How are you feeling, now that it is several days later?
It usually takes about 7 days to fully clear an delayed food sensitivity inflammatory reaction (the kind behind chronic inflammation like arthritis), so you have probably been on a great diet for you for at least a few days before the elk. But I'm so glad the elk is agreeing so well with you. I hope all the other meats you mention agree equally well with you.
Sounds like you are being very diligent in finding healthy alternatives. Green leafy vegetables are also a good source of calcium, because the calcium in them is so bioavailable.
It would be good to find enough safe carbs to get you out of ketosis.
Keep me posted.
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Muirnin
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2012, 09:06:44 PM » |
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Hello Barbara, Thanks for your message and for taking the time to follow up. Since the breakthrough day, I have continued to improve every day. Although the improvements are smaller now, they are still noticeable and I am rarely experiencing pain in my joints. I still have tender moments when I put to much pressure on a joint but it is very minor and reducing gradually everyday. I also find that the snapping in my joints is continuing to gradually decrease. This is such a dramatic change in such a short time. It still amazes me. I am still getting a sore throat and a minor increase in symptoms when I drink spring water from plastic bottles but I continue my search for glass bottled water. In the meantime, I have tested several juices and am fine with them so I buy non-reconstituted juices without any additives for the moment and rotate them every four days to prevent developing an allergy to them. The juice is also preventing further weight loss and keeping me out of ketosis. I have also found a number of green vegetables that I can eat so my food list is slowly growing. It's tough to stick with this when my family continues to eat all those breads, etc. in front of me but being pain free is far better than eating foods I can't right now. I know it is not forever so I'm managing. I have also sourced a pro-biotic with 11 strains of bacteria in it from Nutricology that I have ordered along with their Buffered Vit C. I find the Vit C is a big help in reducing symptoms quickly if I do get a reaction to a food so thank you for that tip from your book. I am looking forward to further improvement from pro-biotics and have learned how to grow my own and will soon be making dill pickles and sauerkraut. Do you have any favourite recipes or websites or books for your home grown pro-biotics? Thank-you again for your book and website and thank you for checking in with me. I appreciate your concern. All the best, Susan |
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Barbara Allan
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2012, 04:02:40 PM » |
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Dear Susan,
You are doing a great job! I'm glad you are seeing such good results. As you keep working out more of your dietary and water source details, you will likely feel even better.
I love the book, "Wild Fermentation" by Sandor Katz. "Nourishing Traditions" by Sally Fallon, isn't just about making fermented products, but is none the less has some great recipies for fermented products beyond what is in the first book I mentioned. Those are my two favorite recipe books that I tend to look at for ideas before I ferment anything in my kitchen.
For anyone who hasn't seen my making non-dairy probiotics video here is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxxa6GZL1Uo
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vrinda
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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2012, 12:33:49 AM » |
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Hi all, I am new to this site. All of you are fasting? Dont you feel hungry? How can you work and manage your routine activities without food??
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Muirnin
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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2012, 09:03:48 AM » |
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Hello Vrinda and welcome to the site. One of the types of fasts Barbara speaks of is the lamb and pear fast where you pick two foods you know you don't have a reaction to (these are likely foods you have rarely eaten such as lamb and pear). You eat those for your meals, drink vegetable juices made by a juicer (if you think you'll react to some vegatables this part might be tricky), drink broth as per her book, and alfalfa tea to help keep your blood pH alkaline. She recommends organic if at all possible for both meats and fruits and vegetables. I think I have that correct, but please let me know if I'm missing something ..... anyone! It takes a bit of setup time to sort all of this out and get the supplies and foods you need to start. Once you are ready, you eat as above and then test one new food every two days. It's important to check with your doctor before you start a fast and fasts of longer than a few days to a week really need to be supervised by a health care professional. Any foods you tested during that time of fasting each month can be added to the foods you now eat on a four day rotation (i.e. eat them only every four days to prevent developing an allergy to this food too). Gradually you will build up more foods that you can eat. It's a slow process and in between, when you go back to your regular diet, you may experience pain and swelling until you have fasted enough to figure out enough foods that you don't react to. Best of luck with your fast and there is always someone here to help you if you need it. I love this site! |
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vrinda
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2012, 10:52:37 PM » |
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Thanks so much...I really would like to do this fast...many yrs ago I went to a health farm and they made me fast for 15days on coconut water and fresh lime juice.
I used to feel so much better. But now lot of toxins are in my body, walking is difficult, I have put on weight.
But now I am eager to take guidance from this site.
Thanks.
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kezruss
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2012, 03:20:47 AM » |
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I have prepared to start a 3 day juice fast tomorrow morning but I am feeling a bit apprehensive. I am hoping I have read the book correctly but there is so much to remember and I am hoping I can get it right. I have had blood allergy tests previously so I basically know what I am sensitive to, but I am hoping the fast will get me out of pain. Am I doing the right thing by fasting or should I use one of the other techniques? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Kerrie
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Muirnin
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2012, 07:29:25 AM » |
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Hi Kerrie,
Just so you are aware, a blood allergy test only detects things that you are IgE allergic to. There are four Ig substances, however. The first is IgA, the second, IgM, the third, IgG, and the fourt IgE. So only severe allergic responses show up as IgE on blood tests. So food sensitivities are still causing inflammation but are not listed as an allergy by current medical standards. Your juice fast will get you out of pain if: 1. you have chosen to juice with things you are not sensitive to (best to pick foods you rarely eat); 2. your body is healthy enough to clear the inflammation in three days. Are you able to consider doing an elimination diet at some point too? I do hope you are feeling better soon. Take care.
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